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Previously on King of the Hill, TLR (now of course Dignitas) beat off a challenge from #team-Coolermaster to take the opening fixture in the event. Bouncing back from that defeat comes Zak to give his thoughts on the fixture and more generally about the scene itself. Cue the Parkinson theme tune.....
 zaK : hey mr Uzi
 Uzi : Morning mr Zak
I know you guys gave a good account of yourselves in the last round and that you're a team in the true sense of the word (playing together and practising as much as anyone else in the community). Dignitas are another team that put in the same amount of effort and get to reap the rewards. Will the collection of individual talent on show tonight from Blacksun be able to make any holes in Dignitas do you think ?
I don't think that's going to happen no, to get close to beating Dignitas you either have to be much better skilled than them, which in my opinion Blacksun are not, or as organised as they are, again which Blacksun are not. I can't see them doing too well unless one of them goes sick.
abdo says as much in his interview with tinker, do you think the community got starstruck seeing the possible players Blacksun could field in the match ?- there's names there that people would like to see playing in match like this.
I think that all the "old school" players who have stopped playing or moved to CSS voted for Blacksun to try and show that the UK scene is poor now compared to when they played, whilst most of the current people playing voted for either FtD or one of the other teams. As the latest poll shows, most people expect Dignitas to win 2-0, and those that voted for Blacksun to win are probably the people who voted for them to play this game.
Personally I would have preferred to see FtD play tonight, I think they're a really good team when they play well and it would of been nice for them to get to play tonight instead of a mix of big names. Hopefully they'll get their chance next week.
FTD do look like it's going to be their turn next time but I guess a lot depends on which teams join the vote. I cant remember if 4k are in the next batch or the one after that, I'm sure that would would be a popular vote
Yeh, hopefully 4k aren't in the next one as I'd like to see both FtD and 4k playing as we haven't seen much from 4k since their lineup change.
They are in the next round of voting, should we just announce the match now and have done with it lol? i cant see anyone else getting the votes there.
I can probably seeing 4k getting the majority of the votes, but FtD have a lot of fans in theSGL community so it could be closer than people think.
According to my calculations we could see a FtD vs 4kings match as Dignitas will be away in Moscow contesting the Kode5 finals. Typical isn't it - once again we miss out on the chance of a 4k vs Dignitas tie.
Well, I think that 4k vs Ftd would be a better match anyway, it'd probably be much closer than Dignitas vs FtD/4k would be, and it'll still give us a big of insight into how the new 4k lineup is doing, everyone wins.
Maybe as Dignitas didn't actually lose they could play the winner of that the week after?
I'll have to look into that, King of the Hill runs on a very specific schedule.....
No maps have been chosen by either team at this time, I suppose there will be plenty of people who think the map choice wont matter anyway - you took them on on nuke and inferno do you think there might be a map that would suit Blacksun better than any other?
If it was me I think I would try and get special leave to play Prodigy or something like that, keep them closed in as much as possible haha. Less room for them to run around showing off.
I'd say train is pretty hard as a mix as it needs lots of communication else you get shot in the side all the time, so that would be one for Blacksun to avoid in my opinion. Dust2 is always seen as a map for mix teams, so I guess that will probably be their best shot. I think Dignitas will be eliminating Dust2 though so maybe cpl_mill will be their best option as it's a not so practised map.
Looking forward to ESWC ? We announce the teams and suchlike in three (maybe four) days time.
Yes I'm really looking forward to ESWC. It should be a really good event - I expect to see most SGL prem/invite teams there, and there are rumours of a few old school mixes going so there should be some interesting games. The fact that it's running in parallel with the summer slam event means there will be even more people there, and unlike any other non-BYOC LAN you get a computer for the whole weekend, so it should be a great event.
I'm expecting to see the same team names cropping up again there as likely candidates to go to California. Yourselves, Dignitas, 4kings.
Yeh, excluding any old school mixes that might attend, I don't really see anyone else with a chance of going apart from the three that you mentioned, possibly immolate if they hardcore it.. they've got some pretty good players too.
Should be a tough fight for all involved but I do know someone who is definitely going already. Whoever wins it will have me keeping an eye on them in the USA in August. (about time all this adminning paid off lol)
Yeh, the UK scene owes you and theSGL a lot for all the events you've run over the years.
Nah, it's all about the players. It always surprises me when a custom map becomes available for use - like Tuscan in ESWC, that more teams don't give it some serious practice to give themselves an advantage, the custom map often ends up being 3rd map in the pool and could make a real difference.
I think although a lot of people whine that the current main 5 maps has become boring, they don't actually want to put the time in to practice and learn new maps. Another reason for this is that it's much harder to find practice games, especially good ones, on non-standard maps unless that map is being used for the week in ESL or something like that. Is tuscan going to be in the map pool at ESWC UK?
Yes its part of the five maps. Obviously mill is a cpl map so they have to go a slightly different way with Tuscan which you know is basically the same map. Still - funny to see people run round corners into a brick wall that isn't there on mill.
k, personally I don't think I've ever played tuscan, not even had a run around it, so with that news I think I'll be downloading it tonight
Back to tonight though, along with plenty of others I'm hoping things wont be over too quickly but it's hard to find any reasons why it wont be.
Like I said before, I can't see Blacksun getting anywhere unless someone goes sick. Personally I hope Blacksun don't win, as it will inflate some of their oversized ego's even more, and if they lose all we'll hear is "We're a mix and we play CSS now.".
There was a long period where all the real events belonged to 4kings. You wouldn't see them in the UK scene but they mopped up all the events that had a decent payday or qualification for a bigger event - there are plenty of people who would say that stifled the UK scene and could have hindered its development leaving us so far behind the European teams.
Do we have the same problem again now with this elite Dignitas team, if you think its a problem at all of course and even if it is, is it too late in the life of CS for it to really matter any more?
I think that any team that's at the top of the scene wants to remain there, so it's understandable that they aren't going to help the teams below them improve, so yes I'd say 4k could of done more to help the UK scene. I know a while back I was banned from some invite channels that I'd been in for a while because a top UK team told them to ban me, even though I'd been in there longer than them (not 4k), so yes I'd say they have hindered the UK scene a bit. As for the life of CS, it's apparently been dying for 2 years, yet we still have ESWC, Kode5 and WCG qualifiers to fight for, plus all the UK LANs, I don't really think there's time left for a UK scene to become top10 in the world, but while there are still these qualifiers to play for if you're enjoying it why not ey?
controversey corner. CS is an old game but as you say it is still the choice of the big events. we hear that CSS is replacing it every other day but it never happens. with CSS itself having been around so long without making inroads into the world stage (CGS aside of course) do you think that maybe CSS has missed the boat and just isn't ever going to make it big.
from an outsiders point of view cod4 looks like it could step up and steal it. I know to many players CoD4 seems to be a more natural step up from 1.6 than css is
I don't think that CSS will ever be the game at WCG, ESWC etc unless something major happens, I can see CS being replaced by another game, probably Cod4 when CS is eventually removed from these big competitions and "dies". Personally when that happens, if I'm still playing, I think it will be time for me to quit and I won't be moving on to CSS or any other game seriously.
All too common a sentiment sadly. Any shout outs before we sign off ?
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