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Tue 30th Jun 2009 9:54am

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Ive just been watching AMA Motocross and there is a chap on there who broke his kneecap and he is back racing again 2 weeks after doing it...

I thought wow, that was a quick turn around.. but then I thought, if a footballer did something like that, it would take them weeks/months to get better.. and Motocross is alot more demanding on the body than football..

Take for instance, Motocross racer called James Stewart, fucked up his ACL (cruciate ligaments) and he was back racing within 3 months, if a footballer does this, its a career threatening injury..

Yes I know if a footballer does his ACL, it would be worse than if a motocross racer did it because of the twisting and turning of the knee, which a motocross racer doesnt have to do, but even still... Motocross is a hell of alot more demanding than football.

Im sure footballers have the best doctors/physio's out there, so how come they take so long to get back on track...?

Overpaid poofs tbh. Big grin

Tue 30th Jun 2009 9:57am

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think alot of it is to prevent further damage so they let it fully heal to prevent any long term injury. and another thing people who motocross tend to be a little crazy anyway.
Tue 30th Jun 2009 10:00am

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Make sure its 100% before going back out I guess
Tue 30th Jun 2009 10:05am

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yeh but footballers take like, 18 months out with an ACL, Stewart took 3 months out, came back and won every race from then on out.. so he musta been feeling pretty good? I mean they did an interview with him, and he was like yeh its fine, just 2 more weeks of recovery and il be 100% .. so.. 3 n half months for recovery? in comparison to a footballers 18 months...
Tue 30th Jun 2009 10:13am

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dude,

you dont think that the 100k per week footballer CBA or is being "soft", as soon as they can come back - they do. footballers WANT to play football (regardless of salary) and managers wants their best players on the pitch. If they chose not to put players back out too soon then its for a reason dude. they arent doing it for the sake of it.

It's a shame that everything "good" that happens has to be at the expense of something else. Like when we won the rugby world cup, there were as many column inches devoted to saying that teh footballers were crap because they hadnt won it than there were pats on the back for the rugby dudes.

so some motocross guy gets over an injury quickly, good for him. Let it be a good thing for itself rather than another opportunity to knock someone else.
Tue 30th Jun 2009 10:13am
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Keith Chegwin said...


Overpaid poofs tbh. Big grin



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Tue 30th Jun 2009 10:16am

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Im not knocking footballers as such... (well.. i am a little Kiss ) it just seemed silly the turnaround time for a motocross rider in comparison to a footballer.

I was just wondering how they can come back so fast and footballers seem to be out for such a long time.. I mean, how can you justify spending 18 months out in comparison to a motocross rider taking 3 months out? :s
Edited by Keith Chegwin on 30/06/09 10:18am
Tue 30th Jun 2009 10:32am
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it affects footballers because they need such precision and balance to do what they do.

For e.g. I damaged the tendons in my ankle after a nasty tackle and was out for 8months 2years ago and my football has never been the same since. Which is why they call such minor injurys career threatening.
Tue 30th Jun 2009 10:33am
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motocross drivers dont get paid as much as footballers im guessing.

top footballers can afford to take time out until they're 100%, your moto cross mate needed to come back at 80%, either cuz hes a nut job or because of moneyz.
Tue 30th Jun 2009 10:41am

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footballers are ponces end of.
Tue 30th Jun 2009 10:44am

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Dunno where you get the 'motocross is more demanding than football' from. Compare their training schedules... Isnt it blindingly obvious?
It may also be down to their immune systems. Its a fact - footballers need rest at the end of the season, due to weakening immune systems over time.

Also, ACL cannot be 100% guaranteed after 3-4 months. It may not be a deterrant in motocross, but it deffo is fot a football player. Turning an injury into a recurring injury - ala Michael Owen - is Not something they want. This can happen for minor injuries, and so they take longer in general.

Therefore ACL/MCL etc are career threatening every time, since a) these are required Much more in football than motocross, b) these take a LONG time to fully heal (and therefore avoid repetitive injuries), and c) In order to fully heal, a long time - up to 18 months is required. For a footballer, 18 months out of action can be a hell of a long time, therefore no football etc. For a pro cs'er, 18 months with no cs would mean u become shit - similar to football. Any team would automatically look for a replacement.
Tue 30th Jun 2009 10:49am

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More muscles involved in football, therefore injuries harder to overcome then if you was riding a motorcross bike..

I know motorcross is bare hard and a slim percent of people would be able to do it, but your skill requires you to pull a throttle and be a daredevil, Football requires your skill to be Stamina, Balance, Speed, Strength, Power etc..

Not taking a dig at motorcross is fucking hard.

Tue 30th Jun 2009 10:50am

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dani_Pedrosa#Injuries

lololol the guy just keeps on racing Big grin
Tue 30th Jun 2009 10:59am
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darKo.sandpit said...
More muscles involved in football, therefore injuries harder to overcome then if you was riding a motorcross bike..

I know motorcross is bare hard and a slim percent of people would be able to do it, but your skill requires you to pull a throttle and be a daredevil, Football requires your skill to be Stamina, Balance, Speed, Strength, Power etc..

Not taking a dig at motorcross is fucking hard.



more muscles in football ? I highly highly doubt that.

And differance between football + Motorcross , Motorcross risks there lives for something they love , Footballers risk a nail.
Tue 30th Jun 2009 11:25am
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Sitting down on a bike is no where near as demanding as sprinting, then stopping, then sprinting, then turning sharply on the spot, then being kicked, then jumping etc.etc. for 90 minutes. Football is incredibly physically demanding, especially at the top level. Some of these players are running 12k in 90 minutes, and not at a gentle pace, it's all running very fast in short bursts.

I tore my ankle ligament 6 months ago and I have been healing it for almost that entire time, I finally thought it was strong enough and so I played football last week and did it again in the first 10 minutes. Go figure
Edited by jake- on 30/06/09 11:26am
Tue 30th Jun 2009 11:33am

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I snapped my lateral knee ligaments last season in a bad tackle at a football match. I do muaythai which is renowed as one of the most brutal sports there is and i have never had a problem with my knee hurting during training or sparing. Bear in mind that im constantly throwing kicks and knees and taking kicks and knees to my legs and my knee has held up 100% fine.

Now i only managed 70 mins in 4 games of football at the end of the season after coming off in AGONY! you don't realise how much playing on soft ground makes a difference and the different muscles and ligaments you use. you are constantly running tackling turning shooting and jumping. i would say football is 2x more demanding that motocross(owner of a wrf450) and i would dare say overall muscle and ligament wise it is more demading that combat sports such as Thai boxing.
Tue 30th Jun 2009 11:35am

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For example...

http://www.nme.com/news/blondie/38338

LoL.. drumming is harder than football! ............

il post some proof in a bit Winking

Edited by Keith Chegwin on 30/06/09 11:35am
Tue 30th Jun 2009 11:38am
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Keith Chegwin said...
For example...

http://www.nme.com/news/blondie/38338

LoL.. drumming is harder than football! ............

il post some proof in a bit Winking



you were comparing football to motocross a second ago...

yes, because regularly rasing your heart rate keeps you fit dont it....

So you agree that playing on the drums for 30mins is better for you, and will keep you fitter than a football who runs around a pitch for 90mins AND trains regularly and eats correctly.
Edited by SNYDEE on 30/06/09 12:05pm
Tue 30th Jun 2009 11:39am

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im sorry, motorcross is not even half as demanding as football. plus noone cares if they come back too early and ruin their career
Tue 30th Jun 2009 11:42am

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Quoted........
drumming for an hour-and-a-half raised his heart rate to same level as footballer Cristiano Ronaldo in a typical league game.


I'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest that people who "have sex" are fitter then footballers for exactly the same reason.

there's no great conspiracy to have star footballers sitting in the stands instead of on the pitch "just for the sake of it".
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